Q. The BBVA Collection possesses two of your early works, Untitled (1978) and Peine (1983), in which one can already discern your interest in process and change. How would you relate these works with what you are doing now?
A. While the former comes from a critical moment when I replaced liquid paint with paraffin and eliminated the stretcher, the latter, the brass “comb”, has to do with hair and the act of combing.
As an everyday tool, the comb has essentially remained unchanged since the Neolithic. It is used to untangle the material that grows on your head, which is important for all people in general but particularly for women. Hair is the most evident proof of the body’s capacity to regenerate itself, and the mark of the passing of time on our body. We cut our hair, and almost always we throw away the cuttings. Hair is a very intimate element that arouses conflicting reactions, both rejection as well as veneration. It contains our DNA and is also related with sexuality. In almost all cultures, people who take vows of chastity—monks, nuns, priests and ascetics—reflect this fact through their hair.
Hair is one of the oldest materials par excellence.
Over the years I have made many “combs” and I have also made works with hair. I have “written” on the wall with hair (for instance in the exhibition “…Con pocas palabras” at Villa Romana in Florence, 2003) and I have made pieces with horsehair, and also what I call “hairy tongues”.
Everything goes back to my abiding interest in anthropology ever since my teens, due precisely to a discontent with society as it was. This is closely bound with “The Underside of Monuments and the Agony of Tongues”, my latest exhibition at Museo Patio Herreriano in Valladolid which speaks about the vast quantity of languages in danger of extinction and, with them, the disappearance of ethnic groups and cultures in Latin America.
Q. One can currently note a more concerted effort to reduce the gender gap in the art world, to recover women artists and create new references that will draw a broader panorama. Who were your references when you started out? Were there many women among them?
A. Speaking of references from the seventies I would underline the members of Black Mountain College with a particular mention for John Cage, but also the work of Morris Louis and his technique of allowing paint to flow over the surface. I became aware of the work of Eva Hesse and Louise Bourgeois in the eighties, as well as Joseph Beuys. From the seventies I would underscore the importance of the cycle of exhibitions held at the German Institute in Madrid in 1974 called “Nuevos Comportamientos Artísticos” (New Artistic Behaviours) organized by Simón Marchán Fiz, featuring artists like Timm Ulrichs, Stuart Brisley and Wolf Vostell. As far as women artists are concerned, I was conversant with the work of Paula Modersohn-Becker, María Blanchard, Hannah Höch and Käthe Kollwitz, but I did not lend too much importance to that aspect of it.
Q. The situation over this last year has underlined culture’s enduring need to reinvent itself in order to adapt to changing circumstances. On many occasions you have spoken about the dangers of alienation for humans in the face of the constant bombardment of images we receive, something which has perhaps grown even more over the last year because of the increased use of screens. What do you believe is the role of art in this context? What opportunities have you found in the use of new technologies for art mediation?
A. I believe that the addiction to screens, deliberately induced by tech companies who apply nervous stimuli every X seconds to trap users, calls for a public campaign that should be focused as part of our basic education. It requires a vaccination campaign just like we vaccinate against polio or chickenpox. We have to teach people how to use computers, screens and the internet, just as we teach people how to read or how to use a knife, spoon and fork. They are useful tools but we have to immunize people against possible addiction. It is not a task for art but basic education.
What art can and should do is activate and boost a counter-flow to the generalized reification. What it can do, in a thousand different ways, is to contribute experiences, speak to the senses, pose questions, change ways of looking, create affinities, turn zombies back into people.
New technologies are of course very useful for mediation and diffusion and they can also change the ways we make art, and in fact they already doing just that.
Maybe future generations will not be so worried about the singularity of experiences. Those of us who are going through this pandemic probably believe that it is fantastic to be able to see John Coltrane on a screen, but who wouldn’t prefer to hear him play at Village Vanguard?
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